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      <title>7–13–50–90–150</title>
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					<b><p>Nate</p>: </b><em>?An alternative to Andy's 3–12–120 plotting of  optimal sizes for culture-making (and -disseminating) groups. I don't know if starting with "the seven" totally matches with Andy's idea of an "absolutely small" creative group—seven is more minivan than Mini Cooper.?</em><br />
		
		<p><strong>150—&#8220;The Exclusive Dunbar Number&#8221;.</strong> Robin Dunbar got much of the discussion of group thresholds started with his <a href="http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~amag/langev/paper/dunbar93coevolutionOf.html">article</a>, &#8220;Co-Evolution Of Neocortex Size, Group Size And Language In Humans.&#8221; However, as I&#8217;ve written <a href="http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2004/03/the_dunbar_numb.html">previously</a>, and as I&#8217;ve described in this article, Dunbar&#8217;s group threshold of 150 applies more to groups that are highly incentivized and relatively exclusive and whose goal is survival.</p>
<p>Dunbar makes this obvious by the statement that such a grouping &#8220;would require as much as 42% of the total time budget to be devoted to social grooming.&#8221; </p>
<p> The result of the grooming requirement is that communities bounded by the Exclusive Dunbar Number are relatively few. You will find hunter/gatherer and other subsistence societies where this is a natural tribe size. You&#8217;ll also find these groups sizes in <a href="http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2004/03/what_is_the_opt.html">terrorist and mafia</a> organizations.</p><hr />
<div class="author" style="font-size: -1">from "<a href="http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2008/09/group-threshold.html">Community by the Numbers, Part One: Group Thresholds</a>," by Christopher Allen, <a href="http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2008/09/group-threshold.html">Life With Alacrity</a>, 24 September 2008 :: thanks, <a href="http://koranteng.blogspot.com/">Koranteng</a>!</div>		
	
			
			
			

		
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